- July 9th, 2016, 6:35 am#4870588
I agree. Was never a fan of the "remake" idea since day one. I don't find anything about this movie that says Ghostbusters other than the name itself.
And no, I'm not hating on it b/c of the female cast - I don't like the idea b/c it ignores the original source material and has no respect for the ORIGINAL and ONLY Ghostbusters.
Paul Feig doesn't get it and never will - he has for the most part, tarnished the franchise's good name and it will take a proper movie (if we ever get one) to return it to its former glory.
And no, I'm not hating on it b/c of the female cast - I don't like the idea b/c it ignores the original source material and has no respect for the ORIGINAL and ONLY Ghostbusters.
Paul Feig doesn't get it and never will - he has for the most part, tarnished the franchise's good name and it will take a proper movie (if we ever get one) to return it to its former glory.
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- July 9th, 2016, 8:11 am#4870592
Most people do not know that a Ghostbusters fandom exists so, tarnished or not, its reputation is as irrelevant as it ever was. The real question rests with the reputation of the franchise. Is it still bright and shiny enough to attract real talent and investment, or is it so tarnished it's going to go away for a while?
Obviously, I'd prefer real investment and talented individuals working with the property and making movies I'd enjoy. But if the field has to lie fallow for a season, I'm fine with that, too. The disastrous Batman and Robin gave us Nolan's Dark Knight, after all. Destruction is what makes new creation possible. Even Gozer the Destructor's ultimate aim was rectification and reconciliation.
Obviously, I'd prefer real investment and talented individuals working with the property and making movies I'd enjoy. But if the field has to lie fallow for a season, I'm fine with that, too. The disastrous Batman and Robin gave us Nolan's Dark Knight, after all. Destruction is what makes new creation possible. Even Gozer the Destructor's ultimate aim was rectification and reconciliation.
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- July 9th, 2016, 8:18 am#4870593
Heh, they know it exists now...purely because of the worst Internet scum of the Earth. I stand by what I said.
As for the reputation of the franchise, it's fine. Ghostbusters is a classic, it always will be. Audiences understand that reboots happen. The sky is not falling. The Internet just has a tendency to believe it is, or it gets bored with itself.
As for the reputation of the franchise, it's fine. Ghostbusters is a classic, it always will be. Audiences understand that reboots happen. The sky is not falling. The Internet just has a tendency to believe it is, or it gets bored with itself.
"You forgot the first rule of fanatics. When you become obsessed with the enemy...you become the enemy."
- July 9th, 2016, 8:30 am#4870597
All that being said, I'm still going to see it, probably multiple times, in full gear. I know myself and I'm still probably going to like it, not love it, but probably like it.
JurorNo.2 wrote:Reboots come and go, the only thing that's tarnished at the moment is the fandom's reputation.Not for nothing, but if what this guy says is true about the movie being a giant "man-bash", it kind of validates A LOT of the hate, and yes, the "misogyny". Now, before I get attacked for that opinion, I stand by something I've stood by for a long time. Equality means equality. When the only way to further your race, sex, or whatever is to tear down the other race / sex, you're being the very thing you hate. The very thing you're fighting against.
All that being said, I'm still going to see it, probably multiple times, in full gear. I know myself and I'm still probably going to like it, not love it, but probably like it.
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- July 9th, 2016, 8:34 am#4870599
Scum wrote:Not for nothing, but if what this guy says is true about the movie being a giant "man-bash"It's YouTube. You could sneeze wrong and it would be a giant "man-bash."
it kind of validates A LOT of the hateNothing validates the immaturity I've seen. The Internet is barely hanging on a thread of credibility as it is.
"You forgot the first rule of fanatics. When you become obsessed with the enemy...you become the enemy."
- July 9th, 2016, 8:46 am#4870601
JurorNo.2 wrote:Maybe validate was the wrong term. I just mean that in retrospect, a year from now, people will look potentially look back and say "what was more sexist? The way basement dwelling neck beards hated on women, or the way the actual movie portrayed all men as being retarded assholes?"Scum wrote:Not for nothing, but if what this guy says is true about the movie being a giant "man-bash"It's YouTube. You could sneeze wrong and it would be a giant "man-bash."it kind of validates A LOT of the hateNothing validates the immaturity I've seen. The Internet is barely hanging on a thread of credibility as it is.
"Doctor... Venkman. The purpose of science is to serve mankind. You seem to regard science as some kind of dodge... or hustle. Your theories are the worst kind of popular tripe, your methods are sloppy, and your conclusions are highly questionable! You are a poor scientist, Dr. Venkman!" - Dean Yeager
"No, no, no. You are a talking monkey on a spinning ball, floating through infinity. You f*ckhead" - Joe Rogan
"No, no, no. You are a talking monkey on a spinning ball, floating through infinity. You f*ckhead" - Joe Rogan
- July 9th, 2016, 8:47 am#4870602
Scum wrote:what was more sexist? The way basement dwelling neck beards hated on women, or the way the actual movie portrayed all men as being retarded assholes?"Why do we have to choose?
"You forgot the first rule of fanatics. When you become obsessed with the enemy...you become the enemy."
- July 9th, 2016, 8:54 am#4870604
JurorNo.2 wrote:So true. The lesser of two evils is STILL EVIL!!!Scum wrote:what was more sexist? The way basement dwelling neck beards hated on women, or the way the actual movie portrayed all men as being retarded assholes?"Why do we have to choose?
"Doctor... Venkman. The purpose of science is to serve mankind. You seem to regard science as some kind of dodge... or hustle. Your theories are the worst kind of popular tripe, your methods are sloppy, and your conclusions are highly questionable! You are a poor scientist, Dr. Venkman!" - Dean Yeager
"No, no, no. You are a talking monkey on a spinning ball, floating through infinity. You f*ckhead" - Joe Rogan
"No, no, no. You are a talking monkey on a spinning ball, floating through infinity. You f*ckhead" - Joe Rogan
- July 9th, 2016, 9:09 am#4870607
Is he actually notable when it comes to reviews, or is the only reason his video is posted here is because he goes into a 15 minute* explanation/diatribe/rant about why he didn't like the reboot?
Personally, I didn't get the impression that he was a member of a professional outfit given he wasn't bothered about trying to remember Leslie Jones' name, or have some sort of cheat sheet to help him remember.
*The full length of the view was one of a few factors that turned it off for me. I understand that at some points a longer period of time might be needed to go into the grit of things, but then that's no longer so much a review as an essay, or a thesis.
For me, reviews should be reasonable short, succinct and to the point: to give people a quick barometer test to determine if they want to go see a film or not.
EddieSpenser wrote:Good or bad, post themHe's not a recognisable print publication, nor one of the notable youtube reviewers that a lot of us would be familiar with.
*youtube video by WrecklessEating*
Is he actually notable when it comes to reviews, or is the only reason his video is posted here is because he goes into a 15 minute* explanation/diatribe/rant about why he didn't like the reboot?
Personally, I didn't get the impression that he was a member of a professional outfit given he wasn't bothered about trying to remember Leslie Jones' name, or have some sort of cheat sheet to help him remember.
*The full length of the view was one of a few factors that turned it off for me. I understand that at some points a longer period of time might be needed to go into the grit of things, but then that's no longer so much a review as an essay, or a thesis.
For me, reviews should be reasonable short, succinct and to the point: to give people a quick barometer test to determine if they want to go see a film or not.
- July 9th, 2016, 9:40 am#4870609
I'd like to say, for anyone complaining about "some random guy's review", I've been following Wreckless Eating for a few years now, and I generally respect Matt Zion's opinion on things. He's got me to watch a few movies I wouldn't, and I have disagreed on some. It isn't generally about movie reviews, but they do them from time to time. That said, he's posted a few videos where at some point he talked about the reboot and really wanting to see it, and I can tell, he is upset about this, not just angry.
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- July 9th, 2016, 9:44 am#4870610
Im seeing it on Monday in 3D. Happy to give my own opinion on it then (Spoiler Free). At the moment, Im looking forward to it with some optimism.
- July 9th, 2016, 9:45 am#4870611
Fair enough, every Internet critic has his or her moment. It's just that everyone's always upset about something on the Internet, especially YouTube. It's pretty much the default setting.
"You forgot the first rule of fanatics. When you become obsessed with the enemy...you become the enemy."
- July 9th, 2016, 9:46 am#4870612
lozbloke wrote:Im seeing it on Monday in 3D. Happy to give my own opinion on it then (Spoiler Free). At the moment, Im looking forward to it with some optimism.Awesome, hope you have a good time. Either way, it's a movie, fun time out. I might actually be seeing it tonight as it turns out. I'll try to keep spoilers to myself.
"You forgot the first rule of fanatics. When you become obsessed with the enemy...you become the enemy."
- July 9th, 2016, 9:55 am#4870614
lozbloke wrote: if its good then thats great, if its not as good as Im hoping it to be, then its 2 hours of escapism.Exactly.
"You forgot the first rule of fanatics. When you become obsessed with the enemy...you become the enemy."
- July 9th, 2016, 10:42 am#4870628
GBFans is hoping to have a review of the film up within a few days (if not sooner) of the release, including one that will feature spoilers, and one that's spoiler-free.
- July 9th, 2016, 10:50 am#4870629
Scum wrote:Are you male or female? Because I don't understand why a male would knowingly pay good money and subject themselves to be bashed for "enjoyment."JurorNo.2 wrote:Reboots come and go, the only thing that's tarnished at the moment is the fandom's reputation.Not for nothing, but if what this guy says is true about the movie being a giant "man-bash", it kind of validates A LOT of the hate, and yes, the "misogyny". Now, before I get attacked for that opinion, I stand by something I've stood by for a long time. Equality means equality. When the only way to further your race, sex, or whatever is to tear down the other race / sex, you're being the very thing you hate. The very thing you're fighting against.
All that being said, I'm still going to see it, probably multiple times, in full gear. I know myself and I'm still probably going to like it, not love it, but probably like it.
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- July 9th, 2016, 10:58 am#4870635
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- July 9th, 2016, 11:09 am#4870636
montclaire wrote:Because I don't understand why a male would knowingly pay good money and subject themselves to be bashed for "enjoyment."The posted video review aside, none of us here know just how much or little "male bashing" there is in the film. Because I don't know if that reviewer might be overblowing things, I'm willing to go in myself, pay my money, and form my own opinion (as a matter of personal preference, I rarely pay attention to critics in deciding whether to see a film or not. It's burned me a little in the past, but it's always a game of luck when you go to the cinema).
- July 9th, 2016, 11:10 am#4870637
The review seems like an honest OPINION to me, but I'll keep my $7.
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- July 9th, 2016, 11:39 am#4870645
Devin Faraci apparently liked it! I'm a bit surprised as he was bashing the script pretty hard throughout production.
https://twitter.com/devincf/status/751269814220431361
https://twitter.com/devincf/status/751269814220431361
- July 9th, 2016, 11:45 am#4870646
I'll never listen to a word Faraci says again after he acted like a giant man-baby against the Jurassic Park fandom when he didn't like Jurassic World. When it got big and made a lot of money, he constantly crapped on it on Twitter for weeks, because no one agreed with his opinion. So, forgive me if I'm already pessimistic over the film, but I will never take his word on anything.
- July 9th, 2016, 12:18 pm#4870651
-Stereotypes
-All men are portrayed as either idiots, assholes, or both
-slap-sticky cartoony characters
And the icing on the cake:
My attitude went from "this is going to be a disaster and I hate it already" to "weary cautious" now back to "Yep, gut feeling told me so." You know what the irony is about all this? Nerdy fanboys and sexism will get the blame when this Tranks.
You guys have a ball at the cinema with this flop, I'll be checking out RT scores and watching the fire from a lawn chair.
d_osborn wrote:Devin Faraci apparently liked it! I'm a bit surprised as he was bashing the script pretty hard throughout production.He liked and defended the Fantastic Four reboot too, so I won't waste my energy on his opinion.
https://twitter.com/devincf/status/751269814220431361
JurorNo2. wrote:Reboots come and go, the only thing that's tarnished at the moment is the fandom's reputation.NO, don't even go there. EVERYBODY had a bad feeling about the creative decisions and direction this film was heading into from when it was announced, and from the sounds of it - rightfully so. Let's take a rundown of the Paul Feig formula checklist:
-Stereotypes
-All men are portrayed as either idiots, assholes, or both
-slap-sticky cartoony characters
And the icing on the cake:
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You guys have a ball at the cinema with this flop, I'll be checking out RT scores and watching the fire from a lawn chair.
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- July 9th, 2016, 12:26 pm#4870655
SpaceBallz wrote:... so I won't waste my energy on his opinion.You just did.
- July 9th, 2016, 12:27 pm#4870656
d_osborn wrote: You just did.
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